Did an Aircraft really hit the Pentagon
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Noite Escura
The unpredictable
He's alive. He's in the plane that is overdue. 
Dumb Yanks
The illusion ... your goverment wants to protect its citizens.
The truth ... your government now has legislation that removes most of your rights to privacy.
So...an act of terrorism has scared you all shitless...
People in the middle east live like that everyday of their lives.... Making you all realise youre not Gods is scary huh?
The illusion ... your goverment wants to protect its citizens.
The truth ... your government now has legislation that removes most of your rights to privacy.
So...an act of terrorism has scared you all shitless...
People in the middle east live like that everyday of their lives.... Making you all realise youre not Gods is scary huh?
People in the mid east has brought it on themselves. Hell they cant get along with themselves let alone the rest of the world.
I say drop off about a million guns and block the borders and see how many are left in a month.
As for a plane hitting the pentagon, first reports said that it actually hit the heliport pad and the explosion is what caused the rest of the damage. but either way it still caused damage.
But let them try it now. We got more planes in the air than they will want to deal with.
I say drop off about a million guns and block the borders and see how many are left in a month.
As for a plane hitting the pentagon, first reports said that it actually hit the heliport pad and the explosion is what caused the rest of the damage. but either way it still caused damage.
But let them try it now. We got more planes in the air than they will want to deal with.
"The illusion ... your goverment wants to protect its citizens.
The truth ... your government now has legislation that removes most of your rights to privacy. "
seems to me we are becoming what most other countries are already.
But im curious what would you suggest ? If not to retaliate then what? Sorry but im for the eye for an eye. You gotta pay to play the game.
I get sick of all the bleeding hearts that want the us to do something but dont hurt anyone in the process. So what do we do, send thousands of soldiers to a far away land to be killed because they need our help. And then we are made out to be the bad guy for being there.
If the us were smart (imo) we would make all these countries pay us back all the loans we gave them and then tell them no more military support.
The truth ... your government now has legislation that removes most of your rights to privacy. "
seems to me we are becoming what most other countries are already.
But im curious what would you suggest ? If not to retaliate then what? Sorry but im for the eye for an eye. You gotta pay to play the game.
I get sick of all the bleeding hearts that want the us to do something but dont hurt anyone in the process. So what do we do, send thousands of soldiers to a far away land to be killed because they need our help. And then we are made out to be the bad guy for being there.
If the us were smart (imo) we would make all these countries pay us back all the loans we gave them and then tell them no more military support.
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The best defense for what happened on 9/11 is to prevent it. The pieces of an airplane would come down in densely populated areas even if the military could down one headed towards a building.
The reason why there were no defenses on 9/11 for airplanes is because it was not taken into consideration that our own planes could be used as weapons.
The reason why there were no defenses on 9/11 for airplanes is because it was not taken into consideration that our own planes could be used as weapons.
I agree ... the best way to stop terrorism is to prevent it from happening.... therefore tell you govt to keep its nose out of other peoples business... the only reason the US is involved in the middle east is to secure oil rights.
The US has fuc ked over so many countries its embarrasing to be associated.
The US has fuc ked over so many countries its embarrasing to be associated.
Bush's open ended war on terrorism has got me worried. The whole Axis of Evil thing was just bizarre....and yes oil may be a big factor in what's going on.
The missing plane conspiracy has been going around for a little bit. I don't think there's much truth to it but I don't doubt that we're not being told everything.
The missing plane conspiracy has been going around for a little bit. I don't think there's much truth to it but I don't doubt that we're not being told everything.
unclehobart
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Iran? We don't have a beef with Iran right now. Our fight is with Iraq.
k2 said:So...an act of terrorism has scared you all shitless...
People in the middle east live like that everyday of their lives.... Making you all realise youre not Gods is scary huh?
If they choose to allow a few radicals with visions of grandeur to control the way they live, then I pity their cowardice. Hell yes, it scared us shitless-they attacked innocent civilians with civilians aircraft. When they went after military installations and embassies, it was different. No better, but different.
The biggest difference between us & the Kuwatis, Saudis, et al-we will not back down from an attack on civilians. Someone must fight to end this non-sense. I didn't see New Zealand or Japan or China or Great Britain step up to the plate before it was too late.
Is this your governments stance on the issue? Unlikely. It's okay to send our money & goods, but never say shit about internal or global issues? Bullshit. We are the world power-like it or not. Our government has a constitutional requirement to make treaties. Or break them. If your, or some other country can live without a functioning & whole United States, be our collective guest.
Americans have no desire to have war, but it was brought to us, not the reverse. Iraq is a threat to the entire region, if not the world. Again, it's the US to the rescue. Or, we could tell the mideast that we don't want their oil & watch as the area collapses. That would be much better don't you think?
The war wasn't bought to the US Gonz, Sept 11 terrorism was retaliation for what they percieve the US is doing to them.
The US has been covertly interfereing in other countries politics for years.
NZ has always stepped up to the plate to support its allies... and we have/had troops in Afghanistan.
I don't condone anything that has happened... I just wonder why you guys feel like the only victims.
I spose your view of the world is indirectly proportional to the size of your country.
The US has been covertly interfereing in other countries politics for years.
NZ has always stepped up to the plate to support its allies... and we have/had troops in Afghanistan.
I don't condone anything that has happened... I just wonder why you guys feel like the only victims.
I spose your view of the world is indirectly proportional to the size of your country.
Oh, but you are so wrong Krusty. It was brought to us. As soon as they quit targeting military & embassies, they made it personal to every American. Which in turn makes it personal to Brits & the French & Germans, as well as New Zealanders. Because, if they can strike here, they could have just as easily blown up Big Ben, or the Eiffel Tower. If we, the west, or better yet, NATO, treat them so badly, where are the armies & navies? It seems the governments prefer our money over their theology. They preach hatred of the Great Satan while lining their pockets with the gold of that exact creature. Maybe if the citizens were free to protest, they would see the Great Satan is in their own leaders & power brokers. Our country doesn't interfere any more than any other country. It's called politics. Britain spys on us, we spy on Israel, France spys on Russia. When there is a weakness spotted, the spotting country takes advantage. This is nothing new. It's as old than the original sin. As for interfering, I, again, invite anyone who thinks they can live without a strong America to give it a go. Hell, they may be right. We don't have all the answers. We've sure made a hell of go of it though. The world has advanced more since this country was founded that in the previous 10,000 years. Makes one curious as to why, doesn't it.
My point about other countries stepping up to the plate had nothing to do with NZ supporting it's allies. It has to do with the socialist mentality that has overtaken most of the world governments, including ours. Britain has been attacked, as has most of the EU countries. Not one of them decided once was enough. If we had gone to help Israel, or Jordan or Egypt, we would be interfereing. Had Italy decided that one terrorist attack was enough & decided to go to war, we would have backed an ally. But they didn't. Well, we have had enough. We've watched it happen for decades & nothing was done because nobody asked our assitance. Fair enough, it's just criminals acting as criminals & their judicial system will handle it. That certainly seemed to work didn't it. We aren't the only victims. We are however, the only country to have the cajones to try & stop it. Better than crying in our tea doncha think?
My point about other countries stepping up to the plate had nothing to do with NZ supporting it's allies. It has to do with the socialist mentality that has overtaken most of the world governments, including ours. Britain has been attacked, as has most of the EU countries. Not one of them decided once was enough. If we had gone to help Israel, or Jordan or Egypt, we would be interfereing. Had Italy decided that one terrorist attack was enough & decided to go to war, we would have backed an ally. But they didn't. Well, we have had enough. We've watched it happen for decades & nothing was done because nobody asked our assitance. Fair enough, it's just criminals acting as criminals & their judicial system will handle it. That certainly seemed to work didn't it. We aren't the only victims. We are however, the only country to have the cajones to try & stop it. Better than crying in our tea doncha think?
Yeah you're right, it became personal to every westerner when the terrorists made us realise we aren't safe at home, something they already knew from experience.
Remember Bin Laden was trained by your CIA ... and for what... to kill his own people or some shit... well that bit of covert activity backfired didn't it?
Sorry man, the rest of your arguement is nonsense... great satan my ass... poverty breeds hatred anywhere and religion is just an excuse, true muslims don't hate the west.
lol... @ 10,000 years ... things that havent changed are ignorance and apathy.
Remember Bin Laden was trained by your CIA ... and for what... to kill his own people or some shit... well that bit of covert activity backfired didn't it?
Sorry man, the rest of your arguement is nonsense... great satan my ass... poverty breeds hatred anywhere and religion is just an excuse, true muslims don't hate the west.
lol... @ 10,000 years ... things that havent changed are ignorance and apathy.