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greenfreak
New Member
Mirlyn said:
Stupid American.
PuterTutor
New Member
Nixy said:
Ummm.... Yeah. Ok.
greenfreak
New Member
But how do you know it's true unless you were a college student in both places? 
*waits for Nixy to clear her throat and bitchslap me*
*waits for Nixy to clear her throat and bitchslap me*
chcr
I have no idea!
This'll make you feel either better or worse, Nix.
I would never have gotten out of grade 8!!!
Remember when our grandparents, great-grandparents, and such stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, KS, USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895
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Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no Modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
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Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at
50cts/bushel,
deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary
levy
to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20
per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
********************************************
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln,
Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800,
1849, 1865.
**********************************************
Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography,
etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph,
subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.'
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two
exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word:
bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver,
Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S..
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same
latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the
earth.
**********************************************
Also notice that the exam took six hours to complete. Gives the
saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't
it?
I would never have gotten out of grade 8!!!
Remember when our grandparents, great-grandparents, and such stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, KS, USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895
********************************
Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no Modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
*****************************************
Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at
50cts/bushel,
deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary
levy
to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20
per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
********************************************
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln,
Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800,
1849, 1865.
**********************************************
Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography,
etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph,
subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.'
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two
exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word:
bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver,
Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S..
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same
latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the
earth.
**********************************************
Also notice that the exam took six hours to complete. Gives the
saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't
it?
Mirlyn
rebmeM
Yeah, youre right. I really have no idea what I was thinking there. I remember getting interrupted by someone when I hit the reply button, but don't know where I came up with the response.Nixy said:and...thus...Nixy is right
I need to be right SOMEWHERE cause I know I am getting SOME stuff wrong on these tests...
Salina, KS. Figures.chcr said:
greenfreak
New Member
Nixy said:
That wouldn't surprise me. The differences in curriculum in countries outside the US is wild, they are expected to know so much more than we are. It's like you have to go to college here to get an education that is comparable to another country's high school education.
I'd love to go back to school, take only classes I was interested in. Feed my brain.
Mirlyn
rebmeM
greenfreak said:Nixy said:
That wouldn't surprise me. The differences in curriculum in countries outside the US is wild, they are expected to know so much more than we are. It's like you have to go to college here to get an education that is comparable to another country's high school education.
I'd love to go back to school, take only classes I was interested in. Feed my brain.
True. I have talked to many foregin students who say there is no such thing as automatic acceptance in their countries. They have strict entrance requirements....hardly anyone goes to college. Must be working too. Microsoft and other companies are going overseas (to India primarily) for recruiting because our current college grads don't know enough.
greenfreak
New Member
I think the reason why everyone is going to India is because it's cheaper and easier at least when you're talking about IT. Dell's home support is based in India and everyone says the same thing; you can't understand what they're saying. I read an article a while back about the Indian programmers and IT people that are working here on visas for less than what these companies would have to pay American citizens. No benefits, no unemployment when the job is over, no fuss no muss. There are plenty of qualified personnel out there, it's just advantageous to the companies not to hire them.
It may be time to rekindle the old "Buy American" campaign against those companies.....Let them sell they're products in India to their underpaid workers....
PuterTutor
New Member
Well, I know where I work we hire outside contractors alot for special projects. They are almost always Indian. Dot not Feather Indians that is. They usually make a shitload more than we all do, and almost half thier time is spent surfing on the web or using MSN. Of course 3/4 of my time is spent surfing, but that's irrelevant.
greenfreak
New Member
Rusty was contracting for a while and although he made pretty good money (moreso than he would a FT employee), he got killed on no benefits, no days off, no overtime, and being responsible for his taxes. We had to pay so many taxes at the end of the year, it was ridiculous.
I don't think I'd ever go that way unless it was a choice between that and unemployment. It has it's advantages and disadvantages.
I don't think I'd ever go that way unless it was a choice between that and unemployment. It has it's advantages and disadvantages.
Mirlyn
rebmeM
Labor is indeed cheaper. However, I also mean experience. Gates even said himself that US colleges aren't teaching enough math to be successful software engineers. You have engineering (math), and you have computer science (programming), but no degree that combines the two sufficient for the new product demand. 
Dunno what to think about that one....I'm all for globalization, but when it affects satisfaction, it doesn't work out all that great for the customer.
Dunno what to think about that one....I'm all for globalization, but when it affects satisfaction, it doesn't work out all that great for the customer.