Where the hell did we go wrong?

unclehobart

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4th-graders reprimanded for lewd acts in classroom
By Janet Jacobs and Jonathan Osborne


American-Statesman Staff

Tuesday, March 26, 2002

MARBLE FALLS -- Police are investigating allegations that five fourth-grade boys performed oral sex on one another during class at least twice at Marble Falls Elementary School.

School officials confirm that the incidents took place and that they are treating the acts as lewd behavior. The boys were suspended for a day, have been put in alternative classes for 10 days and will receive counseling, said Superintendent Dana Marable.

"It was a dare," Marable said.

However, at least one mother, who asked not to be identified to protect her son's identity, said the acts were done under threat.

"My boy didn't want to, and the other boys threatened him if he didn't," she said.

In interviews with police, the boys -- all ages 9 and 10 -- admitted the acts took place last fall and again in February, said Marble Falls police Capt. Robert Sooter.

Marable said the acts took place during a free reading time, when everyone in the classroom, including the teacher, is supposed to be reading. The boys had retreated to beanbag chairs in the back of the classroom and were using their coats to hide from the teacher, the parent said.

"The little boys didn't do it in front of the teacher," Marable said. "They hid."

A child in the class told the teacher about the sex acts March 7, two days before spring break. The boys were suspended March 8. When they returned from spring break March 18, they were placed in alternative education.

Police said they learned about the incident March 18. School officials said they notified authorities March 8, in compliance with a Texas law requiring that abuse incidents be reported within 48 hours.

"All authorities have been notified in accordance with the letter of the law," said Marble Falls Elementary Principal Steve Shroft.

Police are concerned about three things: whether any of the boys used coercion and might be charged with a crime; whether the teacher or school officials were negligent or were slow to report the incidents; and whether the boys were re-enacting behavior they had learned elsewhere.

"Obviously, this is some kind of learned behavior, and it's our job to learn where it came from," Sooter said.

Amanda Van Hoozer, director of program services for the Children's Advocacy Center in Austin, said it's possible that one boy is more sexually advanced than the others and is sharing this knowledge. But, she said, a history of sex abuse is a more likely explanation.

"Some kids are really precocious," Van Hoozer said. "They know a lot more than other kids. They've seen it in a magazine, and they've decided to try it out for themselves. But if these kids are just normal, average 10-year-olds, most 10-year-olds have not been exposed to this. If they are sexually acting out . . . you certainly want to look at what's going on because it is indicative of abuse."

Van Hoozer said another child in the same circle of friends might have taught the acts to the boys.

"I think it's definitely a red flag that a child somewhere within this network of kids has been abused," she said. "But again, you have to stress that it may not be any of these kids."

Officials with the Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services, which investigates allegations of child abuse, said they are aware of the situation but have not opened an investigation.

"At this point, it doesn't appear to have been any neglect or abuse by the caregiver, because it was child on child," said Marla Sheely, spokeswoman for the agency. "We're still following it. We're still looking over the whole issue of supervision."

The teacher, who was not identified by school officials, is still teaching the class, and there have been no changes of policy, Marable said.

"I'm sure that particular teacher has changed her policy," she said.
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Damn.... just .... just damn.
 

patweb

Eater of Hot Peppered Steak
And the unidentified mom pipes up, "WELL, he certainly didn't learn it from ME." While dad scoffs, "That's for sure."
 

unclehobart

this is my special title
'we; meaning you, you, ... you alone. You let this happen. *points at MrX with accusing gnarled fingers. eyebrows arched*
 

unclehobart

this is my special title
Bah ... yours has a 14 y/o giving near adults a Lewinsky. Mine has 4 serously young boys doing a Liberache as a team. Mine trumps yours 10 times over.
 

unclehobart

this is my special title
ah... I kept reading the initial posted story. I didn't see the 2nd main story contained deep within. My bad.
 

Gonzo

Infinitesimally Outrageous
Staff member
Why shouldn't gays adopt older, hard to place children? Infants, on the other hand, have a right to a two-parent heterosexual household.
 
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s4

Guest
I know some of you might be offended by what I am going to say but if gays are allowed to raise small children they will influence the child to be gay also. If they believe being gay is preferrable, they will try to convince the child to be gay too. At an early age, children are impressionable. They should not have someone telling them everyday of their young life how good it is to be gay. The child will grow up not being able to make that choice for theirself because their parents will be engaged in unnatural sexual relations, and it will rub off on the kid.

Not only that but the kid will suffer terribly from their peers knowing that the parents are gay. They will get abused very badly from those who do not approve of gay relationships.

I know someone will tell me that I am full of it, but that is what I think.
 

Q

stepmosnter
Staff member
I think it's very brave of krusty....admitting his fears in a public forum like this.:evillaff:
 
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